# Any thought about sfosc.org from Adam Jacob (Chef)

**URL:** <https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/any-thought-about-sfosc-org-from-adam-jacob-chef/225>\
**Category:** SFOSC\
**Created:** [August 6, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/any-thought-about-sfosc-org-from-adam-jacob-chef/225 "2019-08-06T13:41:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![medjawii](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.sustainoss.org/medjawii/32/153_2.png) [@medjawii](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/medjawii)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2019, 1:41pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/any-thought-about-sfosc-org-from-adam-jacob-chef/225/1 "2019-08-06T13:41:41Z")

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I was at OSCON last month where Adam Jacob talked in Keynote about the war in open source and the fact that neither Saas vendors (because of the business model and VC investments) neither Free software/Libre software foundations (because according to him of their view/dogma about OSS definition) had the solutions to develop sustainable open source communities.

The video is accessible here (behind O’Reilly portal)

> **[OSCON 2019 - Portland, Oregon](https://www.oreilly.com/library/view/oscon-2019-/9781492050643/video326118.html)**
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> \- Selection from OSCON 2019 - Portland, Oregon \[Video\]

Anyone in Sustain OSS involved or know more about this initiative?

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**Author:** ![chris](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.sustainoss.org/chris/32/137_2.png) [@chris](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/chris)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:20pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/any-thought-about-sfosc-org-from-adam-jacob-chef/225/2 "2019-08-11T21:20:15Z")

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I’ve been following the conversations in SFOSC here: [https://github.com/sfosc/sfosc/issues](https://github.com/sfosc/sfosc/issues)

It seems to me there’s definitely a missing piece this community is on to and I like how it’s been run so far

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**Author:** ![camille](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.sustainoss.org/camille/32/110_2.png) [@camille](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/camille)\
**Post date:** [August 12, 2019, 7:26am UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/any-thought-about-sfosc-org-from-adam-jacob-chef/225/3 "2019-08-12T07:26:16Z")

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Hi @medjawii,  
I’ve also been following the project @chris mentionned.  
It’s been quite dormant for some time, but activity has recently restarted. I like their basic idea to evaluate business model according to their potential sustainability, but haven’t found the time to contribute anything yet ☹

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**Author:** ![greggish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/dc4da7/32.png) [@greggish](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/greggish)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2019, 8:51pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/any-thought-about-sfosc-org-from-adam-jacob-chef/225/4 "2019-08-14T20:51:27Z")

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I’ve looked at this a few times, and I am certainly interested in the mission!

But i’m pretty confused about the methdology – where did these principles come from? Is it one guy’s opinion? the project seems to be based upon some unstated assumptions and value judgments…