# Dawn Wages and Loren Crary on funding the PSF

**URL:** <https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/dawn-wages-and-loren-crary-on-funding-the-psf/1769>\
**Category:** Podcasts\
**Tags:** podcast, sustain\
**Created:** [December 12, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/dawn-wages-and-loren-crary-on-funding-the-psf/1769 "2025-12-12T15:09:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tina\_Arboleda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.sustainoss.org/tina_arboleda/32/763_2.png) [@Tina\_Arboleda](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/Tina_Arboleda)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2025, 3:09pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/dawn-wages-and-loren-crary-on-funding-the-psf/1769/1 "2025-12-12T15:09:13Z")

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[Dawn](https://dawnwages.info/) and [Loren](https://www.linkedin.com/in/loren-crary/) discuss sustaining [Python](http://www.python.org/psf/), governance, fundraising, [PyCon US](https://us.pycon.org/2026/), and rejecting a $1.5M NSF grant over anti-DEI terms.

Listen at 🎙 [podcast.sustainoss.org/276](https://podcast.sustainoss.org/276)

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**Author:** ![RichardLitt](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.sustainoss.org/richardlitt/32/8_2.png) [@RichardLitt](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/RichardLitt)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/dawn-wages-and-loren-crary-on-funding-the-psf/1769/2 "2025-12-13T00:07:41Z")

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This one was great! Really happy to have the PSF on again.