# FOSSY 2023 with Denver Gingerich

**URL:** <https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/fossy-2023-with-denver-gingerich/1339>\
**Category:** Podcasts\
**Tags:** podcast, sustain\
**Created:** [August 18, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/fossy-2023-with-denver-gingerich/1339 "2023-08-18T14:21:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tina\_Arboleda](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/flex032/user_avatar/discourse.sustainoss.org/tina_arboleda/32/763_2.png) [@Tina\_Arboleda](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/u/Tina_Arboleda)\
**Post date:** [August 18, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://discourse.sustainoss.org/t/fossy-2023-with-denver-gingerich/1339/1 "2023-08-18T14:21:52Z")

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[Denver](https://ossguy.com/) discusses [JMP’s](https://jmp.chat/) goal to make phone numbers as flexible as emails, his role at [Software Freedom Conservancy](https://sfconservancy.org/), and software compliance controversies.

Listen at 🎙 [Sustain Episode 195: FOSSY 2023 with Denver Gingerich](https://podcast.sustainoss.org/195)